Showing posts with label Medicare. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Medicare. Show all posts

Sunday, September 27, 2026

IMPROVED and Expanded Medicare for ALL. Now. The people want it!

I am in favor of the US having Medicare for All, specifically Improved Medicare for All, as defined in the two bills currently before the Congress: S 1506, sponsored by Sen. Sanders and 18 cosponsors, and HR 3069, sponsored by Rep. Jayapal with 117 co-sponsors. It is important to emphasize the “improved” part, because the deficiencies of current Traditional Medicare (TM), of which there are many, have been used by opponents of Medicare for All, to argue against it and to push various methods of privatizing Medicare, particularly Medicare Advantage and the WiSER program.

The deficiencies in the current TM program involve what is covered and cost. Some things are not covered by TM, including glasses, hearing aids, and nursing homes. This is ridiculous and is due to lobbying pressure by those industries, which want to ensure their profitability. Cost issues include, prominently, 3 things: Part B premiums (which are scaled to income, but start at $203 a month), Part D premiums (thanks to the GW Bush administration, Medicare now requires beneficiaries to have drug coverage, but also requires that it be purchased from a private insurer, and is not available from the federal government), and Medicare Supplement plans, which pay for the portion of covered services that Medicare does not. This is different from the services Medicare does not cover, like hearing aids or glasses, which the Supplement plans also do not. It is, most significantly, the 20% of a hospital’s Medicare-approved charge that Medicare doesn’t pay for. A hospital may normally charge, say, $40,000 for a stay including surgery and post-op care, but Medicare has an approved charge, say $10,000, and that’s all the hospital can bill the Medicare beneficiary. But then Medicare pays only 80%, so the patient is on the hook for $2,000. That’s largely what Medicare supplement plans cover.

So, the Part B and Part D premiums, and the need to buy a Medicare Supplement from an insurance company, can cost a good deal. This can make Medicare Advantage plans, which are basically HMO or PPO insurance products sold by the same companies that issue commercial insurance, and cover drugs as well as 100% of hospitalizations, look financially attractive. Plus, they also cover hearing aids, glasses, and sometimes dental. And even gym memberships! The potential disadvantage is that they are insurance company products and subject to the same limitations as most commercial HMO/PPO products. The most important are:

  •          Limited networks. Only some doctors and hospitals are in the network they pay for. Yours may not be. Or your hospital may be, and your doctor may be, but the ER doctors who care for you in the hospital are not. Or the anesthesiology group. Surprise charges! And most are geographically based, like most HMOs and PPOs, so it may be hard to get non-emergency care away from your home area. And some “destination” hospitals, such as Mayo and MD Anderson, do not accept MA. Virtually all doctors and hospitals accept TM.
  •  Denials. Most people who have commercial insurance have experienced denials of claims. Often it seems as if denial is the default (perhaps AI generated). These decisions can be appealed, but most people don’t appeal. And then it can be denied again, multiple times, for little or no reason. It is part of the business model of health insurance companies. For TM, a covered service is a covered service. It cannot be denied.

It’s not as if this will always happen with MA; as with other insurance products, the coverage varies. But it happens a lot, and unsurprisingly, happens most often to those with the lowest-cost products as it does with non-Medicare commercial insurance.

So, the Improved part of Medicare for All is crucial. It needs to cover all necessary health services, not just hearing aids and glasses, but nursing homes and rehabilitation and comprehensive mental health and dental health. All the things that have been cut out as sops to powerful lobbies. And it needs to cover 100%, not 80%, of approved charges. And let me not leave out the All part. That means everyone, birth to death, no exceptions, no carve-outs, no people or groups of people who are in a different plan, no Medicaid, no ACA. Just one program that covers all of us for everything. A single-payer, universal health insurance plan. Like every other wealthy, and most middle-income countries, have.

But Americans don’t support this, right? Well, actually, they do. Recent polling from GQR reveals 94% of Democrats support M4All! And yet Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, the House Democratic leader has recently joined other prominent “mainstream” “centrist” Democrats in announcing his opposition to it, instead favoring yet more inadequate piecemeal “reforms”. Rep. Jeffries: Get with the program! 94% is more than a lot. It is almost all! And it is not just Democrats: GQR also reports

 Massive support among base voters:

● 94 percent among Democrats;

● 94 percent among self-ascribed somewhat liberals;

● 73 percent support among Black voters;

● 76 percent support among women under age 50; and,

● 75 percent support among voters under age 30.

 

Impressive support among swing voters and notable support among Republicans:

● 60 percent among Independents;

● 67 percent among moderates;

● 60 percent among non-college women;

● 66 percent among college educated men; and,

● One in five (19 percent) Republicans and Trump voters support MFA.

Hmm. It is almost as if the Democratic leadership is not interested in welfare of the American people. It almost seems as if, rather, they are interested in appeasing their big donors.

Think about it. When you look at your own experiences with the healthcare system and health insurance companies, and those of your friends and family, it is scarcely a surprise that Americans hate the current system and are not particularly interested in partial solutions which cover some people for some things by method A, and others by method B, and still others by insurance so poor it covers little (method C), or others not at all (method D). The Commonwealth Fund reports that one-third of Americans 19-64 (pre-Medicare) are paying off medical debt, 46% of whom owe at least $2,000, and more than 1/3 used part or all of their savings to try to pay it off.

In addition, millions of Americans are experiencing “job lock”, a situation in which people feel that they have to stay in their current job to maintain their health insurance, rather than being able to find a better job or start a business. ValuePenguin reports that this amounts to 40% of US adults! Wendell Potter, in his “Health Care Un-Covered” correctly notes that the ACA does not solve this problem, nor does any hodgepodge approach. This concept is something that is completely absent from people in other countries -- because they have universal health insurance.

The American people are not interested in partial fixes anymore. They want to have freedom to work where they want and not have their lives ruined by medical debt so that health insurance companies can rack up even more profit (why would they?). They want the comprehensive, easy to understand, effective type of universal health insurance that has been proven to work, in many forms, in most other countries.

It is past time for Improved Medicare for All!

Monday, September 7, 2026

Lies and cowardice screwing almost everybody's health care coverage

There is usually more than one way to look at a situation. Often referred to as “point of view”, it is good to consider this, particularly in personal relationships, as the way you see things might not be the way the other person does. In the Trump years most of us have become more aware of a different basis for disagreement, not based on different interpretation of the facts but upon different facts. This is not just a difference in emphasis-- you and I both believe X and Y are true, but I think X is more important than Y and you think Y is more important than X.

We are in a situation in which a large portion of the population believes lies are facts, believes that things that are not true are true. Of course, this has always been the case, like when most folks thought that the Earth was flat, or that the sun and stars revolved around the Earth. These were definitively disproved, we know the truth, and yet there are other just as ridiculously incorrect beliefs (and, here, I except, for brevity, religion) that many people still cleave to. Heck, there are still flat earthers! I doubt that most of the leaders of the Republican Party or members of the administration in Washington – or even Fox News commentators -- actually believe most of these falsehoods (except Donald Trump, who seems too demented or stupid or isolated or all three to know), but they find them convenient ways of keeping the public’s attention focused away from what they are doing to benefit themselves and their buddies. This could be called the “Wizard of Oz” technique, and misdirection is a core part of most magic acts, but it is also a core component of fascist tyrannies.

These outright lies in the Era of Trump are incredible, both in number and the real impact on people. In the area of health, the focus of this blog, they have been amazing in terms of their scope and impact. Vaccines, among the few actual preventive things that medicine can do, have been attacked and criticized and completely wrongly said to cause worse problems than they solve. Not to put too fine a point on it, this is pure evil coming from RFK, Jr. and his team of loons. Yes, there are individual people who should not get one or more individual vaccines, because of a serious prior allergic reaction, or even worse a rare effect like Guillain-Barre, but for the vast, vast majority of children and adults vaccines are all good. They basically eliminated smallpox from the world, and essentially eliminated terrible killers like measles in this country – until a new movement endorsed by the Secretary of HHS brought them back. Your measles as a kid wasn’t too bad? Neither was mine. But lots of kids got sick. A bunch died. You never had measles because you’re too young? Because even your parents are too young? And you all had vaccinations? Sadly, maybe you’ll see it in your children. Mumps made people deaf and infertile, meningococcus dead or brain damaged, H influenza the same. Polio made people dead or paralyzed, in wheelchairs or in iron lungs. When I was a medical resident, we saw H influenza meningitis and epiglottitis, meningococcal disease, even some measles and polio. All eliminated by vaccines. Until we stop using them.

Smallpox Epidemic, 1924–1925 | MNopedia  Measles - Wikipedia  Life in the Lung” photo exhibit – Melnick Medical Museum

Smallpox                                Measles               Polio (in iron lung)

There are many, many other health disasters promulgated (it seems on purpose) by this administration. Eliminating or cutting back infectious disease surveillance – cyclospora, E. coli, salmonella -- anyone? Enjoying that? How about animal diseases? And funding for medical research – being heavily cut back especially for researchers that the administration doesn’t like.

But one HUGE area is health insurance, financial coverage for our medical care. I have written about the terrible US health care non-system which is designed to make money for private corporations (insurance companies, big hospitals and health systems, Pharma) instead of being designed to deliver the best actual health care for our people, and how it needs to be replaced by a system of covering everyone, as in every other wealthy country – improved Medicare for All. People need financial coverage because all those big corporations are owned by investors who demand ever-increasing profits, so the costs of the overall system (highest in the world by far), and to individuals, keeps going up.

Under the current administration, the opposite is happening. In a recent editorial in the NY Times, the cuts to coverage are enumerated and documented. The most dramatic of these are cuts to the Medicaid program and the subsidies for purchasing individual insurance on the marketplace created by the Affordable Care Act (ACA, “Obamacare”). The Medicaid cuts target the most vulnerable and needy, the poor and disabled, and the cuts to the ACA subsidies means that the poor-but-not-quite-poor-enough-to-qualify-for-Medicaid population that was finally insured through ACA will lose it. (If you want to know how poor you must be to qualify for Medicaid, you can look it up by state, but it is always very poor. When you look it up, remember that while many states tie eligibility to about 135% of the Federal poverty level, many others have much lower qualifying incomes.) This is really bad because it is going to kill people, is going to strain many physicians and hospital systems – especially those that cannot afford it, like rural hospitals – and create a lot of misery.

There are several other bad things related to health coverage that the Times does not even address. One of these is the aggressive promotion of Medicare Advantage (MA) plans for Medicare eligible people. These plans are not actually Medicare, a federal government run program, but private insurance products that use Medicare money (and gets paid more per patient than traditional Medicare, TM). On the one hand, if you get a good, comprehensive MA plan it can save you money (with TM you probably need to pay for a Medicare supplement and Part D plan as well as the Part B premium taken from your Social Security payment). But it can also have bad results because the insurance companies that run it can, and often do, deny payment for your care, just as they do for regular insurance.

Another health insurance problem the Times does not address is the fact that even in the best situations (in those states that chose to expand Medicaid and before Trump), the ACA did not cover everyone. Both this and Medicare Advantage are also areas not addressed by those making policy for the Democratic Party. It is not coincidental that the Times and that portion of the Democratic Party called (depending on where you stand) “centrist”, “moderate”, “Wall St.” or “right-wing” are similar, because both share a similar ethos. This is to be better than the GOP on a lot of social issues affecting individuals but to not threaten the basic status quo: corporate America making a lot of profit, and enriching its investors, at the expense of the rest of us, particularly but not only the poor, who get screwed out of medical care and/or bankrupted by the bills. Oh, and, by the way, if you one of the majority of people who have employer-sponsored health insurance, you’re still not safe. Costs for insurance to employers (with much or all of the increase passed on to employees) is expected to go up 11% in 2027!

The “centrist” branch of the Democratic Party does not support eliminating or strictly regulating Medicare Advantage, not to mention Improved (covering everything) and Expanded (covering everybody) Medicare for All. The same tired and inadequate reasons are given: “we can’t afford it” --- ridiculous given that every other wealthy or middle-income country does -- when what they mean is “we don’t want to alienate the billionaires who continue to support us”. They say that they need to “be moderate” because they don’t want to turn off independent voters, which results in policies that do not significantly help most regular people. Like Improved and Expanded Medicare for All (see the Jayapal House, HR 3069, and Sanders Senate, S 1506, bills) would.

We should be terrified of what the Trump Administration and GOP are doing, especially trying to disenfranchise voters before the election, and the huge cuts to our health care. But voters are not going to be excited by “Republican lite”; they need to hear about bold programs that will change their lives for the better.

Saturday, March 28, 2026

Everything is becoming more unaffordable, but health care may lead this list!

A Mar 23, 2026 NY Times article, “When voters talk about ‘affordability’, many point to health care”, emphasizes how big a deal this is to the American people – and for those who consider this finer point -- American voters. Lots of things have been becoming increasingly unaffordable, so why should health care be different? Housing is ridiculous, and if you live in one of the larger cities in this country, it may well be out of reach. The Times had another piece the same day, “How a Family of 3 Lives on $500,000 on the Upper West Side”, and apparently it is not that easy. In most of America, a family of 3 making a half-million dollars a year, would be rich, but in New York City (and it is similar or worse in San Francisco, Boston, LA, San Diego, DC, etc.) you’re living in a one-bedroom apartment (near Central Park, though) and trying to save up for something bigger, made more difficult by the $4200/month you pay for childcare for your one-year-old, more than the $3900 yoy pay in rent. Doing the math, those two expenses come to less than $100K a year, so they should still have money left, but I guess other things cost a lot as well.

Food is another big issue; even more than housing it is a necessity (there are, sadly, too many unhoused people but no one can go too long without food) and it is a real issue. I had a friend who was from Colombia, and decades ago he observed that he could understand how people could be homeless in the US, but not hungry. Unlike in his country, where housing was cheap and food expensive, you could get a dozen eggs for $1. Well, recently in many places a dozen eggs were above $6. Whatever you think about eating meat, it has become a rare luxury for many families. And gas? Thanks to the US/Israeli attacks on Iran (I take a deep breath and don’t offer more comments) and Iran’s response, gas prices have shot up. I see articles about it being up 20-30%, but where I live in Tucson, AZ it was $2.79 before the attacks and in the same stations is now $4.45 or more (that is about a 60% increase!) The administration has also cut back incentives for non-gasoline cars as they want to push oil and gas – whoops! Since public transportation is so lousy in many places, people depend on cars to get around and get to work when they have a job.

So, with those 3 things – housing, food, and gas (4 if you add childcare) costing so much, it is pretty salient that the people in the Times article single out health care as a main concern about affordability. And, as I have often written, its unaffordability has been increasing and increasing and increasing. Health insurance premiums are up, and for those who receive it through their employers the percent that the employee must contribute is also up. Deductibles are up. Co-payments are up. And even when you pay all that – and frequently people cannot – you may well not get the care you need because insurance companies have ratcheted up their delay-and-deny game, hoping you will give up and not appeal when they deny you coverage for or require your doctor to get “prior authorization” for something you really need, keeping you away with algorithms that stymie your doctors. Or, maybe they completely deny payment because you went to the “wrong” hospital, one that is not in your (really, their) network. Maybe because you were, well, really sick!

Or you could have Medicaid and find that that, as bad as it was, is being cut. Or even more, is cutting you out entirely! Or you may have had health insurance that you could almost afford as an individual through the health insurance exchanges set up by ACA (Obamacare), but now find that subsidies have been cut and there is no way you can continue to afford it. Or maybe you live in a state that never expanded Medicaid (which was the way the ACA sought to cover those too “rich” for Medicaid but too poor to afford insurance on an exchange), and so you have been without access to care for years. Or, maybe are already dead.

Or you could have “traded in” your Medicare, a single-payer program for senior and some disabled people, for “Medicare Advantage”, an insurance company product that sounded great at the start but puts you right back in an HMO, where you have limited providers and the insurance company can deny you coverage. Or, just to be sure that we are not letting anyone out of being screwed, you can have opted for traditional Medicare and find out that the new WiSER program is allowing companies to use AI-based algorithms to deny care in 6 states (so far)!

Wendell Potter’s substack “Health Care Un-Covered” published With CVS’s Vertical Empire Under Threat in Tennessee, the Company Threatens to Leave on the same day (Mar 23) helps explain the reason. While the headline is somewhat optimistic (that the state of Tennessee is trying to reign them in) the real importance is the description of that vertical integration of CVS’ empire, in which they control not just local pharmacies and the health insurance giant Aetna, but also the pharmacy benefit manager (PBM), Caremark, which is now its largest cash cow! It’s a great deal for them, as they pay themselves, and have little competition from small agencies. They do have competition from UnitedHealth, which owns the PBM OptumRx and the provider group Optum, and CIGNA, which owns ExpressScripts, (which Potter explains Just Got Sued for Racketeering), so it is not an monopoly, just an oligopoly with a small number of players. And not one of those players is at all interested in your health. They are entirely focused on their bottom lines, as I discussed on Feb 26, 2026 in The problem with the US healthcare 'system': THE INSATIABLE PURSUIT OF EVER MORE MONEY BY CORPORATIONS AND WALL ST.  

The Times article emphasizes the political conflict between Republicans, who have been responsible for all the cuts and are trying to make it worse, acting exactly as if their goal is to hurt and kill lower-income people, and the Democrats who are trying (unsuccessfully so far) to block cuts to ACA and Medicaid, and perhaps place some limits on Medicare Advantage. But most “mainstream” (read “corporate”) Democrats are severely limiting their suggestions to, basically, returning to Obama-era goals. A significant minority of Democrats in both the House and Senate have signed on to cosponsor the Improved and Expanded Medicare for All bills that would move the US into the mainstream of healthcare in all wealthy countries by completely covering everyone for everything (see Yes, Rep. Van Drew, there IS a solution!,  Dec 30, 2025)! If that happened, the US would no longer be a standout for bad, paying 2-3 times what other countries pay and having worse health outcomes – and, as described above, moving in the wrong direction.

I don’t think that most Democrats are opposed to your receiving quality healthcare at a reasonable price (not sure about Republicans) but they get lots of money from these insurers, PBMs, and health systems. They need to hear from you!

Thursday, February 26, 2026

The problem with the US healthcare 'system': THE INSATIABLE PURSUIT OF EVER MORE MONEY BY CORPORATIONS AND WALL ST.

That the US health system is (to quote the opening of an important book*) “broken”, is obvious to almost everyone. It’s a mess. Even calling a “system” is probably incorrect. It costs a tremendous amount of money, generally 2-4x per capita what any other wealthy country spends, and generates far worse public health outcomes (even before the wackadoodle RFKJr became Secretary of HHS) such as longevity, disability-adjusted-life-expectancy (DALE), infant mortality, cancer survival, and almost all other measures. It also is very difficult to access, just getting to see a doctor, as well as financially. This situation has long been true for the poor and much of the working class. It is getting worse as low-income people lose access to Medicaid because of cuts to ACA subsidies or because they live in a state that never expanded Medicaid, and for rural people who are both, on average, older (and thus more likely to have health problems) and poorer. Over time it has increasingly become something that affects working class people, as insurance companies raise their rates, employers become stingier with paying premiums, and, very importantly, as the power of unions has been dramatically eroded by a society concerned only with corporations making the most possible money. It is critical to remember that the health insurance benefits employed workers gained resulted from the struggles of unions, never from the generosity of corporations.

The days of “Cadillac health plans” for unionized workers are long gone, and they are finding themselves in the same pool of too many people seeking too unavailable health care at too unaffordable costs. The new Trump administration plan for the ACA will make things much worse; it may offer lower-cost plans in terms of premiums but with enormous deductibles (‘New A.C.A. Plans Could Increase Family Deductibles to $31,000’, NY Times, Feb 26, 2026). So if you get sick and need care, you’re really screwed, and if you don’t you’re paying insurance premiums for nothing!

And now even those in privileged economic positions, who have money and sometimes even personal access because they are doctors, are finding themselves struggling to access care. People can’t find doctors, especially primary care doctors like family physicians and general internists who can manage their health and the input from various specialists. When they can find them, it is hard to get an appointment. It is very difficult to talk to them, or get a message to them, or speak to anyone who works for them who has any clinical knowledge or understanding. Some people say “I have a good doctor, they respond to my calls, or I can communicate on a health portal,” but these grow fewer. I know physicians who have real difficulties! They need supplies for their insulin pumps, but the insurance companies require notes from their doctors, and it is almost impossible to reach them. I know health care professionals who have heart problems requiring them to wear machines recording their heart rhythm over time, who must wait in lines stretching out the door to see their cardiologists. This is bad, not because they are better educated, wealthier, or health care professionals, but because it is bad for everyone. These people, at least, be able to afford to get a “concierge” doctor who they pay out of pocket, but clearly this is not a solution for most folks. 

We are in the grips of a perfect storm, with insurance companies raising their rates and finding reasons to deny care, a shortage of doctors in many areas, both geographic and by specialty, especially including primary care, with doctors having such speed-up of their work that they scarcely have time to see their patients not to mention respond to calls or notes. We have federal and state governments cutting back public benefits, including not only Medicaid but also Medicare and the VA. Doctors no longer work for themselves where they can make decisions about how to run their practice, and balance work and income, but for giant hospital “healthcare” systems and private equity investors interested only in profit.

Well, you know, maybe “perfect storm” is the wrong analogy. That phrase implies that the bad situation you find yourself in is the result of several unrelated events that come together coincidentally at the same time. This is not the case in the health care crisis. While a lot of things seem to be happening together, they are all manifestations of one single thing:

THE INSATIABLE PURSUIT OF EVER MORE MONEY BY CORPORATIONS AND WALL ST.

That's it. That is 100% of the problem. A lot of effort is spent trying to transfer blame between blameworthy players, with insurance companies saying providers are too greedy, providers saying insurers don’t pay enough. And everyone blames the pharmaceutical industry and even components of that industry – drug manufacturers, giant retail pharmacies, and “PBMs”, the middlemen between drug companies and insurers – blaming each other. But this “it’s not me, it’s them” is all a load of crap. Yes, sometimes one part of the “healthcare” industry is doing better financially than another, sometimes one corporate behemoth puts another out of business, but what is never a major consideration – and I put forward it should be the only consideration – is what improves the health of the American people, as individuals and as a whole. You, the “patient”, the sick person who needs care, is the one player in this whole thing whose interests are not getting the consideration they deserve – which should be ALL of it.

The growing trend, which is the proof of all of this, is the “vertical integration” of the components of the system. This means that the same company is the insurance company, the provider, the drug supplier. It feeds itself sucking out your money at every turn while denying you the care that you need. Several recent posts on the “Health Care Un-covered” substack detail aspects of this, including ‘The Economic Exploitation of Independent Physicians by Insurers’, and recently ‘2025: Big Insurance’s $1.7 Trillion Year’ which shows that while they ARE making these outrageous amounts (from YOUR pocket, whether directly in premiums, co-pays, and deductibles or premiums paid by your employer in lieu of higher wages) the bosses THEY answer to, the sharks on Wall St., are harassing them to do more, charge more, deny more care, because it isn’t enough; they aren’t making enough  profit! They need more!

I said at the beginning of this piece that “almost everyone” realizes that our healthcare system is a mess, and I think this is true. Certainly, those profiting from it, all those insurance companies and health systems and private equity companies and drug companies, know it. They love it. They’re making out like bandits, one might be tempted to say, if only bandits could begin to compete with them in cupidity, heartlessness, and immorality.

The truly infuriating thing is that our governments are in the practice of enabling them, of enhancing their power, of increasing their profits (see, for example, the gargantuan efforts to move US seniors out of traditional Medicare, an efficient and cost-effective single-payer plan to Medicare Advantage, which puts them back at the mercy of insurance companies; see for example Medicare re-enrollment: Time to consider being dissatisfied with a new plan!, Oct 25, 2025). Most legislators and their health pundits who are not the out-and-out-on-the-take corporate enablers that characterize the Republican party are the somewhat-less-but-really-still-on-the-take corporate enablers of the Democratic party!

We regularly hear from even somewhat progressive (not to mention the right-wing) think tanks and academics and legislators that it would be impossible to change the system to truly benefit the health of the American people, and not the pockets of big corporations, even though it has been done in every other wealthy (and many less wealthy) countries in the world. The key change here is to take the profit (or most of the profit, or the possibility of generating ever more profit) out of the health system. The problem is simply NOT that people use “too much” health care and cost too much money; the problem IS simply that insurers and big health systems and Wall St. and drug companies MAKE too much money and are taking the money we pay for health care out of health care!

The only people who are going to speak for the health care needs and interests of the vast majority American people are those people themselves. Demand of your politicians that they commit to single-payer improved and expanded Medicare for All, demand that they pursue policies that actually get more primary care doctors out in practice by decreasing the payment prejudice for subspecialists and banning completely the corporate practice of medicine.

And if they don’t, vote them out!

 

*Joshua Freeman, Health, Medicine, and Justice: Designing a fair and equitable healthcare system, Copernicus, 2015.

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